assuming i want to start my very own donut shop,i would like to let you guys know my ideas and i would like to know what you all think.

First i need 12 carebears and 3 of them cannot have teeth or green eyes
2nd a roof with intermingling shades of marmalaid and fruit punch with a smile.
3rd i need graphite for my own toilet paper it would be such a gritty waste :{.
4rth giant rabid easter bunnies that have a fetish for young virgin
5th and final thing i need is bacon bits with a flesh eating disorder ,boy they are hungry
let me know what you guys think about that

Larry-- This thursday is my drow campagine.

John-- I would like to borrow your all flesh books for a few days, i wanna try and run a zombie game my following avaliable thursday.

hey dustin is your drow game thursday or is it that zombie game you were talking about?

Dempending on the macro that im gonna be using, it will either be a 15 min timer or an automatic enterance fee, im not sure which one i want yet. I was looking to set it up as close to the dathomir outpos as possible, of course, we would need to work out the money details, a mill of my money will be deposited int your account a day, of course u will get a hefty 10% or so for letting me use your shack, and jeremy will allso be getting around 10% for letting me use his internet time.

Matt- It's just a vendor tent, which you'd have ownership to. You'd set a 15-minute timer for a 6-8k entry fee. (whatever price is decided on.) That's all you really need to do. I think you can pull that off with nothing more than Buisness 1.

I thought you were at least a Novice merchant now? (I thought you needed Merchant to get a vendor- and you had one.) The vendor isn't neccisary for the buff-shack- that's for me. I wanna' set up a place that is advertized on the map as selling Pre-Patch Nym's.

What sort of shack did we have in mind? I need to get some architect training (I've got 1/1/2/1 right now, and afterwards I'll have 3/1/2/1.) Though if you want a specific type of house, perhaps I could dump into houses instead.

I can build and use a lot to jack it up. Though I've not trained merchant, yet. Skill points are getting a bit thin, and I really want to make Commando after M. Architect. (I'm also about 5600 surveying XP from M.Artisan)

I assume we'll want a vendor in the shack, and go from there?

Jeremy--Running late, but I'll get there 'ventually.

*nods* It's on the list of "things I should learn for moola". *steeples fingers*

Caroline--That whole HP printer certification pays really really well.

Jeremy--Order food before Bebop or bring own food? I'd appreciate knowing which.

John--Pity about no anime. But a couple hundred for an hour's work... Woot!

Okay sorry guys. I really want to watch some Cowboy BeeBop, but I have to run a service call in Canton after work today. It is an easy couple hundred bucks for about an hours work. Can't pass it up. It will give me more cash to spend in the dealers room this weekend, which equates to a few neato bootlegs :) I promise that I'll catch up on the BeeBop and be ready to watch next week. That is of course unless someone else wants to toss cash at me! I'm such a manhoe.......

Well if matt can help whit the schack, then ill go with matts shack, but i wanna get it set up by this weekend, all the friend was gonna do was set me up with the macro, or so i thought.

Dustin- Why Dathomir? A bit out-of-the-way, isn't it...?

And why an outside party? Matt has all the levels one needs to set up the auto-buff hut now (and it would help him with Merchant XP), and I could level myself to that point in a matter of days.

Yeah... we can make a deal for my net access. I want a fixed percent of all sales. Assuming this guy doesn't just take the money and run. (All merchant fees would be going to his account.)

Mmmm. BubbatheloveFett.

Dustin--A buff shack? Holy shit dude you are going to be able to buy your own fleet when the space expansion comes out! Sweet. :)

Jeremy--Make sure Darsh buys you supper first! ;-P

Ahhh, but what they never told you about was the little 14 year old kid who unlocked Luke by mastering 22 professions. and bubla fett was his alternate character on another account, that is why he didn't own Lukes ass, its a little hard to 2 box combat u know.

John-- If you want the 200k, thats fine.

Jeremy-- I met a verry nice doc last night no dathomir, he is gonna help me set up a buff shack on dathomir, and, if i have all thee math worked out, i currently have 12mill worth of buffs on me and another 2mill in the bank. So heres the question, can i leave my machine runing at ur place and afk earn some creds, in exchange for being ur sugar daddy.

Dustin--Hey don't you owe me like 200k in credits for getting Trogdore blown up? :-P

Jeremy--All hail the Master Bounty Hunter...... hey why are you twitching? Oh that is dancing, uh okay. All hail Atropos "Dirty Dancing" Zerem. Heh heh heh. I'm allowed to pick on you, since soon I'll be asking to do everyones makeup and nails. *sigh* Sheesh all Luke had to do is lose his hand, have impure thoughts about his sister, and kill his father. He had it easy!

Dustin: We'll see. It's gonna depend on when I run out of ore and gemstones. :D

Dustin--Now if that money actually translated to real life as better than percentile quantities, you'd be doing all right.

*grumbles at the stupid world* Orrin Hatch is an idiot. Congress Moves to Criminalize P2P

the operators of P2P networks are running a conspiracy in which they lure children and young people with free music, movies and pornography. With these "human shields," the P2P companies are trying to ransom the entertainment industries into accepting their networks as a distribution channel and source of revenue.

"Unfortunately, piracy and pornography could then become the cornerstones of a 'business model,'" Hatch said in a statement. The illicit activities of file sharers "then generate huge advertising revenues for the architects of piracy."

Yeah, IM a multimillionaire again, anyone need a loan?
In Game only.

YEEEHAH! Managed to get construction I. And then I found 2 guys paying for tumblers so they could grind combat medic. And one stop at Chinchilla's vendor later, I'm near broke again, but I think I have enough ore and gemstones to grind to master architect.

Of course, I can't sleep from having slept all day. Damn being sick. But I'll just go crash on the couch until I can sleep, and then spend this weekend grinding.

City of Heroes discussion from peoples inside and outside the beta.

Jeremy--*nodnod* Money is money. And you have the rest of the week to goof off, all inverted-like.

Congrats on the Job, Jeremy.

Sure thing.

Jeremy--It sucks that your weekend if screwed up, but it must feel good to have some cash coming in again. I'll drop by around 11:30 or 12. Does that work for you?

Shatz- Yeah, you have a check coming. If you want to pick it up Saturday, you'll need to show up early. (Before 2pm.) I'm finally officially employed, and will be heading out for that inventory job on Saturday. So I know all of my weekend is pretty much fucked.

As for selling stuff, yeah- I'd be glad to keep selling it.

Jeremy - Ouch. Sorry, dude.

Jeremy--2 questions. First you mentioned I had an eBay check coming. Can I get it this Saturday? Second you still want to eBay my junk for me? I have another batch to bring over if you do. I could bring it on over Saturday.

Dustin--Didn't miss it. Just didn't care.

Jeremy--How many harvestors did you lose?

Squidi!

*grumble* So how far in Bebop did you guys get?

CUBE! (Bonus points if you understand the Russian)

I just saw the most amazing zombie movie I have ever seen. Dawn is awesome.

Oh and You guys missed the Droid envision, There were 20 or so droidekas, 30 or so Battle droids, and at least 60 Advanced battle droids that assaulted the Coronet capitol today. I got killed 5 times and took out 15 droids singlehandedly.

::bows:: All hail the mighty cube................

Jeremy--How is the HDD situation. Did someone finally make it "right"?

Matt: Thanks. I'm logging in using Dustin's computer right now. I figgured some of them had to have been getting low.

The cube, however, is alive. My computer will soon be restored to it's former glory.

Jeremy: You need to check your harvesters. I don't have the money to do maint. on them, and at least one looks like it's feeling the burn.

what proposal are you guys talking about?

No, the proposial is done, exept for a lil math.

Depends. You gonna' decide to start on the proposal at 11:30pm again?

Can Justin come too?

Sweetn Im in.

Jeremy--I'm still planning on coming tonight. I just may not be there till 7. I have to go to Wally World for wifey poo.

Tuesday Anime - In an effort to get Tuesday Anime Night back to... well... Anime- I'd like to start a series tomorrow.

As long as you're all good with it - I'd like to start a run of "Cowboy Bebop."

http://www.jazz-sax.com/mp3s/dvc/11192003b/tank.mp3

Maybe all of those harvestors will keep the damn bugs away from the houses!

Woah 70%? Cool.

Matt- I've been working on cleaning up my "bedroom" in the clubhouse. There are a number of labeled backpacks hanging on the wall. If you would, please drop my two heavy Fusions into the "Harvester" bag whenever you get the chance.

Also- there is a 70% spawn of some very nice steel right under the houses. (To the right of the clubhouse.) Five or six star. I've already got 9 of my harvesters in the backyard. You might want to set up a few of your own. Good stuff...

Dustin--I'll try and get to Danthomir as much as possible for the next few days. We should have a few days window of oppurtunity.

heres the deal, the best avian meat this server has ever seen is on danthomir rite now, it just spawned today, i will pay either 20cpu for it, or i will give free buffs for life for it, but i need at least 50k of it. The best creature to hunt for it is a reptavian flyer, mature reptavians missions always pay 4k, John and Matt, if you can get your guild to hunt it for me i will pay them in either buffs ofr creds, with this meat, i will be able to make 930 packs, which hit 2400 and last for 3 hours.

I might be up for a rancor hunt after I get back from work.

Okay I didn't want to like the new Dawn of the Dead, I really didn't. But I'll be damned if they didn't make a good zombie movie! I guess I have only 2 complaints. First they have a botched action sequence where they are inside a building, then all but one of them in a sewer. Secondly there is not a bit of character development. This wouldn't be all that much of a problem if this movie wasn't based off of a Romero work. Anyone who has seen Night, Dawn, or even Day will notice that the characters are well developed and interesting. This is key for you to care about what happens to them. In the new Dawn they are all disposable, even the main characters. But this is what makes George Romero a fantastic director/writer, and others acceptable. The gore is acceptable for what they could get away with an R rating for. To top it all off they played a Johnny Cash song over the opening credits. Not your standard metal tracks (which do show up later). I found this to be very creative and cool (but I'm a Johnny Cash fan). I'm really looking forward to the unrated DVD.

Jeremy, Dustin, Matt--Trogdore is offically a Rancor handler now :) Now I have to wait for the little bugger to grow up. So anyone want to go baby Rancor hunting with Troggie tonight? Me needs more....

dustin ...im sorry i didnt make it to the kitchen last night.I was gonna come at 1:30 but i thought you prolly already left by then

Dustin--The early show for Dawn of the Dead is 4:25. If you are going with me please either post here or ping me in Galaxies. I'm off on Friday so I'll be home and most likely playing Wookie!

Everyone is welcome to catch this flick out if you wish

My end of a phone conversation.

....Yes you if you save to the server and it isn't available it won't actually save it.

....No really if it is turned off it doesn't record any changes.

...I'm sure without power that it won't work.

...Nope I'm sure.

It went on like this for 5 minutes. *sigh* I wish we had looser justifiable homicide laws in this state.

Bah. I don't scare that easily. Or else I would have run away screaming a long, long time ago...

Caroline--Well I suppose it is more fun to hit a moving target :) BOO!

True. I could run away screaming... *muses* But what would be the fun in that? ^_^

We may be weird, but you hang out with us. At least you have a choice. :-P

You guys are weird... *shakes head* I have an umbrella hat somewhere, which amuses me. The Dollar store has some of the best things... *begin promotion* Instead of an asshat, which is decidedly NSFW, get a kittyhat, foxhat, or pikminhat from fishfish.*end promotion*

OMG

Jeremy--Where an ass for a hat? That sounds difficult...............perhaps it can be done.

One just has to be flexible...

This is an excellent site. Please peruse it at your leisure. Jeremy you should find this very informative.

http://www.confusednation.com/asshat/

Jeremy--Where an ass for a hat? That sounds difficult...............perhaps it can be done.

John- I fear no road. I fear the ditch. :)

I fear the rest of the asshats in this state that seem to have absolutely no fuggin' clue to save their damned lives how to drive with over an inch of snow on the road.

I'm only thinking out you your well-being. Really. ;)

Caroline--It may work...... I don't think it would hurt to try.

Jeremy--You fear the roads? You are cowardly pond scum! Yes not just pond scum, but a cowardly batch! Honestly I hear it is only going to get worse. Good call on your part. Going to play Galaxies tonight?

John--Do you know the RAM speed and type max for the white Dual USB iBooks (March 2001)? I.E. what speed was the stick you gave me? I still haven't gotten around to getting the 512 chip for it, but twould be a lot easier if I could safely stick a 133 speed chip in it rather than the stock 66. I'm 95% sure that DDR RAM won't work... *refrains from further impolite comments about Dustin's g/f*


Jeremy--All the classes today were cancelled too. Whee! *naps*

The roads suck major ass right now. I don't know if it's going to get cleaned up by tonight or not, but I dun' really care one way or another. Consider the "movie night" canceled for today...

Caroline--Maybe Dustin is keeping her in a hole. "...it puts the lotion on it's skin...." :)

Dustin--You have a girlfriend now? Will wonders never cease? Seriously though, congrats. Do we get to meet her, or are you keeping her in a closet somewhere?

Jeremy--Bah. Weekends are unnecessary. Besides the other 4 days would be your weekend.

John--You always seem to find the worst times for movie excursions. As it wil be spring break, I won't be in town then.

Dustin- I'm going to be talking to Mike this weekend regarding this inventory job. Aparently he wants me to go with them on a run to make sure this is something I'll be able to do long-term. (He doesn't want people who just want to work 6-months or so...)

It's basically 72 hours nonstop, Fri-Sat-Sun. I assume a few meal breaks. Everyone meets up at a central point, hops into a van, and get driven from store to store. You inventory, get back in the van, and catch a few hours sleep on the way to the next store. You get paid the whole time- a "working wage" while you're actually doing the inventory, and a "driving wage" for while you're unconcious in the back of the van.

You work three days, the rest of the week you're off. Good deal, assuming it pays well enough, and you don't give a damn about "weekends." I'll find this out soon...

I will let everyone know the showing that I'm attending as soon as I get the information (Thursday?). Please let me know if you are interested.

Dustin--Check your house. Let me know if that stuff works well for you. Girlfriend? Damn Asmodeus is ice skating right now :)

John-- I have obsessive cumpulsive disorder, and i was getting a lil too into swg, so i desided to lay off for a few days, and also i got a girlfriend. And put me on the list to go see dawn of the dead. Also the oq of the avian meat dosn't matter, the higher the pe the better the buffs the best meat is above 800 oq and above 950 pe.

Jeremy--Damn that is what happens when non technical aholes take over a company. So much for Western Digital drives. So who makes a good reliable hard drive anymore? I've had good success with Seagate drives, but that is just me. Maxtor drives are too damn loud! So what are you going to do?

Dustin--How goes it dude? I didn't see you online this weekend wasup?

Caroline--Kingston rules!

Okay guys I have the new DVD release of Dawn of the Dead (good stuff!) as well as Wrong Turn. I can't speak to Wrong Turn's quality, but it is about cannibal hillbillys who go after a group of good looking 20 somethings. Sounds fun! Just a couple of ideas for movie night.

This is very important. I am going to go see the new Dawn of the Dead this weekend at a Matinee showing. If anyone wants to go with me let me know. I have taken the day off to avoid the teenagers, so I'm going to an early show (4 something).

*nods* but it's the same sorta weirdness about reliability. Companies that have reliable products should continue making said reliable products. yes.

Kingston still has a lifetime warantee.

Zombies!

yeah... next thing you're gonna tell me that kingston makes unreliable RAM

That sucks, Wd used to be the shiznet for hdd's.

Hm. I found this on an old forum archive, dated from sometime last year:

As a former tech for Western Digital, it comes highly recommened to purchase Maxtor, Seagate, IBM, or Samsung drives.

WD has changed their warranty to one year because the new CEO has changed WD from the cadilac of hard drives to the cheap "reveal" brand (remember them)

Company memo quote "Quality means nothing anymore in this industry, its all about quanity" Well, they hit the quanity on the head. WD has more than a 10 fold in RMA drives putting the failure rate at nearly 11% or about 8% higher than any other drive on the market today. Infact most of the RMA replacement drives are other customer drives that are checked over and sent back out. So an intermintant drive could reach 10 users before it is finaly pulled for repair.

The amount of loss the company has taken in the last quater has forced the company to close their support centers and switch to an out source call center with only 90 days free support after purchase and after that all support calls will be charged to your credit card.

Even though I no longer work for them, it is still to bad to see this happen. Even while I and other still worked their, most of us would purchase Maxtor drives for our own use.

Here is a list of drive that top the RMA watch out list.

My failing 100 and 200GB drives were on that list.

Yes and none of that fruity stuff..................

The DMs battle for dominance...

You know the rules: two men, hand-to-hand, no jury, no appeal, no parol. Two men enter, one man leaves.

Woo Hoo it's Friday!

I'm for that, but I'm highly likely to miss the session after next, whosever game it is. (March 25th) Either spring break or papers for after spring break.

I would like to put up for a vote, me doing my game Every Thursday, Sorry Leon, but Your game is starting to fall apart.

And with only three players, we'll make this a "GM needs to write more plot stuff anyhow" week and call it a night. See you drow next week

I'm still a server behind. I'm not going to be done in time to make showing up late worthwhile...

Dustin - I just need two lots, for about a week. If that's a problem, I think Shatz said he would be coming into a few more lots after Friday...

Actually, if the building ban works, I won't need to actually trade the lots. I'd just have you or Shatzer place Atropos on the ban-list on my own house. I'm trying to set it up so that this kid who's gonna be leveing my account has no access to anything save what's in my inventory.

The kid may not be a crook, but finding two holocrons and a few million in resources sitting on the floor might be a bit too tempting, y'know...?

Jeremy, at this point i have 1 lot free, i can free up 3 lots by later tonight, and try the lot trade thingy.

Jeremy--Evangoline Freesun on the Ahazi (spelling?) server.

Baz Nitches tell me they need five servers shipped Friday morning. I only have two done. On paper, I shouldn't be able to get three systems done before 7pm (even assuming I let the last system run the tape backup while I'm gone, and come back to box it after the game.) We'll see...

I'm assuming I'll be there around an hour late. I'll try to drop another update around 5pm to give everyone time to check this before the game with a final answer.


Shatz- You say you have a character you've been playing around with on another server, right? I want to do a little experiment before we lay down our houses. I haven't gotten a straight answer if it's safe to use a lot trade to build houses. Nobody will tell me what happens to property when a character is deleted.

Some people think that any buildings who's owners get deleted dissapear every server reset. Others are positive that as long as you have multiple admins, the houses stick around till the maintainance runs out (which the other admins can keep paying...)

Basically, I want to make a new character on whatever server your second is on, and have you buy the cheapest house you can find. I'll place the lot, give your character full admin, and then delete the new character, and see what happens.

I fthe building sticks around for a few days, I'm going to use a "lot trade" to put down the clubhouse...

I also want to see if the admins can actually ban the homeowner from their own house.

Dustin- I haven't seen you on SWG for like two days now. I need to hook up with you online so I can trade your character ownership of my house for a week or so. You've got two lots free, right?

I have a deck of round playing cards! *beams psychotically*

Dustin--No just trying to avoid 7 rabies shots into my lower abdomen.

Jeremy & Dustin--I'm going to find us a location for the houses tonight. I'll send the waypoints when I find it (I have a pretty good idea where I want it to be). Please check it out, I would like to move this weekend.

um, yeah. no game for me tomorrow. sleep... no drive... yus

So, john, you want to find the dog owner so you can make sure that the dog isn't getting sick from biting you

PS: anyone not playing star wars galaxies must start immediately, just don't play a wookie. The devs love to screw wookies! Though because of it we have a fairly tight community....

Star Wars Crew-- I should of expected it, but the devs screwed us again. They made all those wookies run those god awful missions on Endor to earn a set of armor that they won't let us wear! At least they say they are giving us a schematic, so we can make and replace the armor when it gets broken. *sigh* I really hate Galaxies sometimes! I swear to god if I weren't so close to master CH I would be playing the small asian karate woman by now.

Will either be late to game (7:30 or later) or not coming due to all-nighter for take-home midterm due tomorrow, morning apartment expo, and a 6PM apartment appointment that I should really go to. Will decide which option based on when I get this mid-term done.

Sorry Leon, but exams and places to live come before game. I also don't want to be driving long distances with serious sleep dep.

Jeremy--Thanks I need that name.

Yeah, the wookie armor is confirmed.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Developers&message.id=26296 (Login required, natch)

Hey, Jeremy, Dustin...I got a nice set of Marauder Armor that ain't doing nothin'... ;D

(Actually, I'll probably just put it up when I eventually get a house, but y'know.)

Shatz- Yeah, I was wanting to ask how bad you got tore up. I figured you with a cell-phone, bleeding, and trying to drive wasn't the best time to be playing " 20-questions..."

Using my supreme Bounty Hunter skills, I think I tracked the guy down last night. Black and brown Rottweiler, with some older scuzzy dude as the owner, right? Followed him back to his apartment after he told his dog "you're in trouble, you know that...?" I can get his last name off the mailbox tonight...

Caroline--Thanks. I would recommend metal pants for movie night :) I'm actually concerned that the county may put the dog down when I find the owner and report the information.

John--Ouch! Dog bites can be really ucky, so I hope you're doing okay and that the owner can be found. I didn't make any bad jokes about the "lucky" dog, now aren't you proud of me? :)

Jeremy--Definitely a take-home final, so movies at 6ish next week.

Jeremy--If you see that dude with his dog Lucky try and get his name or his apartment number. I'm looking for him. Otherwise I'm going to have to get rabies shots...... which I don't want!

Just to explain to everyone a dog bit me as I was leaving Jeremy's last night. Nasty business, but could of been much worse.

Jeremy & Dustin--So the rumor is after the devs make the wookies run the Marauder Armor missions they pulled it. So if you haven't run the missions don't bother. *sigh* I hate galaxies sometimes.

So they're anti-tracking droids then? *snickers*

Speaking of Bounty Hunter... I can hunt Jedi now. I've already seen a few targets available on the hit-list. Alas, they're almost impossible to hunt right now- the tracking droids are still bugged, and won't actually, well... track... anything. We've been promised this will be fixed in Patch 7.

Soon. Soon...

"You mean gun down four or five people in the game right............ "

Just keep telling yourself that, and it'll all be alright...

It's like I tell all the ladies in the cantina a wookie needs his loving, oh yeah!

Do you say this before you do her hair, or while you're painting her nails?


Your Ranger is to become an image designer. My Bounty Hunter becomes an entertainer. The path to Jedi is a cruel one....

dusty I will try one more time please allow the darts they cost 1 gold a piece they r from sword and fist page 71 name is fukimi-bari

Jeremy--You mean gun down four or five people in the game right............ uh okay then :) It's like I tell all the ladies in the cantina a wookie needs his loving, oh yeah! Underworld, cool I forgot about that.

jeremy- I will be there tonight.

Jeremy--The more important part is that a take-home final means on-time for movies. Google doesn't work for things that aren't on it, especially analysis questions. The point of a take-home final (as should be true for in-class finals, in my opinion) is to demonstrate that you've learned and thought about the material rather than short-answer regurgitation. Although professors can set whatever restrictions they want for take-home exams, smart ones will rework their exams, recognizing that students are likely to consult their notes/work longer than the standard exam period.

Could you put off Underworld until next week please? Pretty please? *still hasn't seen it* Otherwise, I want a burned copy. On third thought, I want a burned copy anyhow. Pretty movie...

Shatzer- Underworld is still on the play list from last week. As for food- we have the standard Pizza/Chicken/Chinese options. Or, with a few "donations" to offset my cost, I've also got a large batch of Gaggins-made creamed-turkey in the freezer for sammiches.

As for the themepark- sure. The wookies need some love. Besides, if I have to run one more Bounty Hunter mission, I'm probably going to snap, gun down four or five people, and just quit SWG....


Caroline- A take-home final...? Err....

"And Google says the answer is..."

Jeremy--I should be at movies next week, but not this week. Currently depends on when my final ends, but I'm thinking 8, 8:30pm if the final starts at 6 (what with driving time). May have a take-home final instead of an in-class final, but I won't find that out until tonight.

John--The music is truly the best part. "The sky is blue and all the leaves are green. My heart is full like a baked potato. I think I know precisely what I mean When I say it's a shpadoinkle day" *sings*

Jeremy--I was planning on it. Last night Dustin said he was coming as well....... but you know how that is :) You can count on me being there, though. Any ideas on movies and food? I have, as always, thrown a few flicks into my laptop bag (Bride of Reanimator, Frogs, and Pirana). I know you had mentioned a few things as well (zombie flick?). Heck you even mentioned some sweet anime. I'm up for whatever.

Dustin and Jeremy--Would you guys be willing to run the Marauder Themepark with Matt and I so we can mooch your wookie armor?

Wayne--With my Wookie regeneration I will most likely get up pull you out of your KIA and rip your arms off. Just an FYI.

Caroline--Cannibal is okay, not great. I do enjoy the music. Ed and is Dead Mother is pretty cool as well.

Regarding Movies: I understand your abscences waere unintentional last week- Regardless, I'm going to be buisy for the next few weeks, and don't have time to waste sitting at home and waiting for a phone call...

Who's coming? If I don't hear from people by 4pm, don't bother showing up.

Hey, John. Here's a movie for you: Ed and His Dead Mother. Cannibal: the Musical is also decent; college does wonders for seeing weird movies.

Wow that car won't last long.

BUMPER STICKER "I brake for drow. Run over Wookies!"

Bah drow...... Wookies rule!

Dartguns! *beams* I had an old first ed character who used those... *nostalgic*

Yeah, Dustin, what exactly would a noble get in trouble for? *plots* If this status confusion/penalty becomes a major issue, it might be better if the whole party was "normal"/house drow. It would encourage party communication if nothing else.

Dave- I don't know how the D&D weapon guys expected those to be used, but the historic mouth-darts were essentially self-contained mini blowguns. Like an inch-long hollow of bamboo about the size of a pen or a drinking straw with the dart stored inside it. That way you didn't repeatedly stab yourself talking with a needle in your mouth. You'd hide it under the tounge or between your gums and your cheek, roll it into place when you needed it, and puffed.

Any poison on the list labeled "Injury" will work fine.

Hi dusty can I request from the house 18 fukimi-bari mouth darts.
a questgon for the group I need a poison for them that will not kill me!

Dustin - It's nice how those of us who don't read Salvatore keep learning about the drow bit-by-bit every time something conflicts with your game world...

The scarring on Izz'drin's face was earned in an earlier combat.

"You would not be punished or rewarded for killing a lesser-standing drow. It would be seen as you eliminating a lame beast of burden that just needed to be put out of its misery."

So killing a higher-standing drow is celebrated, and killing a lesser drow is completely ignored.

So what's with all the secrecy and poisons and assasination bullshit? Why not just walk up and stab the fucker? It would be so much easier.

So what actually would evoke some kind of responce? Would anything happen if I started referencing the matrons as "MILFs 1-#13...?"

I want to kill 100 drow babies, harvest their brains, and goneaking off into some of the deeper tunnels. Then I make a trail of them of brains back to the ain antichamber. Would a group of Illithid gobble them up like E.T. did with the Recees Peeices? Would that work...?

hey dusty let me know when you are free to do something im pretty sure i wanna play but i would need help from someone to make an effective fighter

The thing is Jeremy, your are a high born noble, you would not be punished or rewarded for killing a lesser-standing drow. It would be seen as you eliminating a lame beast of burden that just needed to be put out of its misery. Also, you are going to have to be pretty creative on your backstory as to why your character is still alive with the grotesque facial scaring. If you were born that way, you would have been sactifised immediately.

All- start thinking of a back story for your characters, it will earn you XP for emailing it to me at dmellott2001 at yahoo dot com, the more creative your back story, the more XP earned, and the weaker the back story the less XP earned.

ps. in my email address, remove the spaces, change the at to @, and replace the dot with a period.

Jeremy--Narcissist, with that mask? And there are pseudofeats from the BoVD (p10) that'd help you out with the sado-masochism, but they're overpowered for 1st level. :ic: And I'd help you with that. But, they have to make at least two serious mistakes first. And trust me, I'm keeping track of those... :end ic: It's my relative lack of HP that is the major issue for me. Which is why low HP chars would be the first to go...

Dustin--4 surviving groups is perfectly fine.

My character is a narcisistic, Chaotic-Evil sado-masochist. I'd kill a lesser-standing drow infront of a full-crowd of people just so I can get punished for it...

It is 4 groups, out of 100 groups. The groups were between 5 and 10 people in each group. And this is going to be the 5 day of the trials. Anyone who died in the first 3 days were deemed as unwortht of being a drow.

I was listining to whats his face too much, the way the game went last week was perfect, i dont want to change a thing.

i for one like that u changed your mind dusty it's good thing i didn't want to die 12 times one one night

Yes, but part of what we need to do to survive is rely on eachother to some extent. So far, every character has done at least one worthwhile thing to counteract any dire mistakes. If that changes, or if she finds anyone who doesn't worship Lolth... Bad things will happen to them. It's also that the rest of the group are meat shields until she gets more HP, same for everyone else. As for the surviving group numbers, I would say 4 is a bit too low. Maybe 10 or 20? I don't think they would want to kill off all their graduating classes. But, hey, that's up to you.

One mor thing, im not trying to tell you how to play your characters, that is not my place, do what your character would need to do to survive, and that is all.

Mabey i didn't make my self clear at the begining of the test, and i didn't want to say it again, but if i have to, i will. Due to the inate magic of the arena you are combating in, everything is an illusion, including death while it the arena. If somone would have fallen during any of the first 3 days of the test, they would not have been allowed to survive in drow society, you have all proven yourselves worthy of lolth, there is no longer the chance of being sacrifised during for faltering in the test. This is not known as character knolege unless you are informed ingame. I am not asking for total pking, i am asking for a bit more opurtunisum during the last 2 days of the trials.

And the xp penelility shit is gone.

Your characters would of heard rumors saying that there were only 4 of the origional 100 groups advancing on to the last stretch of the trial.

Leon--Truetrue, but it's the first time I've seen railroading used to make a party kill eachother instead of get them to a particular place.

Dustin--You're going to have to learn to ignore what whatsisface says about PKing. He's promoting more anarchy than even chaotic evil societies have. If (and this is a big if) you really want to do this, it should be only one test, and everyone should be alive afterwards, with full supplies. The last person left should get some sort of experience bonus or prize or greater status. It should not be a permanant rule, because our characters would not do that all the time.

Dustin, the real problem is your dictating to us what our character would do and when. And if you think that's not what you are doing, think again.

3 sessions? Boy are you an optomist.

The real problem is defining opportunity. Don't forget one of the cardinal rules of Drow society. No witnesses. As long as no one actually
sees you do it, you're ok, otherwise you are toast.

Jeremy--Oh, I have plans *evil grin* I agree with you that this game will not last with that PK rule.

Dustin--This ruling is stupid, and I'm being far too polite with my wording. I'm making two "real" backup characters, and after that they're going to be fighter clones for the remainder of the session. Then I won't be back for another session. I can play hack and slash video/computer games without driving two hours, after all.

All--Even with an evil party, there has to be a slight balance between taking opportunities to kill eachother and keeping enough party members alive to kill the enemies. Dustin just obliterated that balance. The only reason it "works" in Paranoia is that most of the hazards are non-combat. Even then, Paranoia games are one-offs. Since D&D is combat-based, intelligent evil characters in D&D have to work together because they know the entire rest of the world will kill them if they don't. If this order has to be imposed by outside authorities because the characters would normally kill each other, so be it. I know the Drow are vicious wanton killers, but they can't kill eachother all the time because there wouldn't be any Drow left. Therefore, they band together against common enemies, and only kill eachother sometimes.

Dustin--Checked and reply returned. Snoogins...

Anyone want to see that flying lizard movie Club Dread?

John, read your email. And yes i am encouraging the party members to act according to what their characters would do if the situation arises.

Dustin--You know I wasn't really paying attention. Are you encouraging your party members to kill each other?

Jeremy--Hmmmm...... maybe I should come back for a week or 2?

"Oh, one more thing, I will be penalizing in XP during the rest of the test, if You do not take the given opportunities to advance in station by eliminating a party member when the opportunity's presents itself. "

Yay! It's judgement day!

Caroline, I told ya' we wouldn't need a healer. Considering you'll be dead within 15 minutes of starting next session, it was nice knowing you. Farva, at least you'll get that skin for your dagger. Or course, you'll be dead before you see it made...

I'd reccomend everyone to generate at least four "backup" characters. That should last you at least into the first hour. And if any other DMs have a game they'd like to run, now is the time to come forward. This will de-evolve into a pit-fight and any campaign will be dead within three sessions...

There can be only one!

Dustin--Actually it is funny. Rather than change characters I've been working with my guild to build Trog into a PVP killing machine. Don't ask me what I'm doing, I'm not going to give any details yet. Lets just say those assholes from Malas are going to be sorry when the overt "suicide squad" of Wookies hits their shitty little town (more than one of us in working on it).

Dustin--You think I'm going to use a lightning rifle? *snicker* you wish. I have other means to drop TKs now. If you have the right skills and tools you drop them without a problem armor or not. Plus last time you let me set up I smoked your ass before you got to me. Not saying it wouldn't be a good fight, just don't underestimate the wookie. Again the devs are busy nerfing your TK as we speak, so soon you will be no more scary in PVP than a twilek dancing girl in a metal bikini.

ps: 2 or 3 hits? Not some of the new cats that I'm having made. :)

No i didn't drop doc, but your cats die in 2-3 hits apice. and my armor is 81% sliced some of it to 88% resist, you wouldn't hurt me

Dustin--Dude did you really drop doc?

Dustin--Heh heh heh not anymore knuckle head. I have a combo of food/drinks that makes my mind so high you'll be long dead before you get close. Plus you want to stand there while my pets shred you, so be it I'll take a few head shots Mr. Soon to be Kitty chow.

Trogdore, i accepet your chalange, or I forgot to mention that we both need to pay for buffs, considering that i droeped doc and ground to rifelman in 4 days. Oops was that your head i just shot off?

Dustin--One other thing. The little abc and check about the box where you type is a spell check. You should think about using it, or else I may have to go about penilising u by elininating u. Just thought that it would make me a beutifully wonderful person to give you this adveance warning.

Damn I'm in a mood this morning :)

Darsh--If we can start at 64 meters I have my lightning rifle, my pets (including my tackle box), and am buffed as well as you. Sure I'll take that challange. Oh did I forget to mention my newly improved droid with his blaster. You chose TK and I chose CH, both can/are dangerous. Oh yeah and when they finally nerf TK you are so toast, so enjoy it now....... snoogins

First off, I would like to say that last night went beautifully.

Second off, I would like to officially remove infravision completely from the game.

Thirdly, I am going to be a little looser on some of the combat movement rules, in an attempt to slim line combat, and unless fighting in extremely tight cororiders, I will be removing the tumble check to move threw a friendly occupied square, u just do the tumble, without making the check.

And lastly, during the test, if u die, u stay dead, or that is what your character thinks.

Oh, one more thing, I will be penalizing in XP during the rest of the test, if You do not take the given opportunities to advance in station by eliminating a party member when the opportunity's presents itself.

And finaly, the XP earned during the last session, will be reduced to 300, you are all first level, your next level advancement will be the normal amount for second level.

ITs offical, i am a master teras kasi, anyone wanna duel?

Jeremy--Yes we must kill all the ewoks. They are the destroyer of worlds, almost as bad as the Ninja monkeys...

Shatzer- Hey... I'm a wookie-friendly bounty hunter. These are Ewok pelts tied to my belt...

Are we talking about House Drow and Field Drow again?

Jeremy: System looks better, going to try loading SWG. If it works, I'll bring yer board back, just give me a good time to do so.

Jeremy--You suck almost as much as Dustin...... almost you friggin beyatch.......

::Eyeshot:: ::Eyeshot:: ::Eyeshot::

Wookie fall down. :)

Dustin only goes to the kitchen on Corellia now :)

...it is the only one he can afford :-P

well Dustin a doubt it.... but i may come and watch..but if your gonna be at the kitchen later i may just stop there

Dustin--*duly prints out copy, as requested*
Awww... I haveta read it? In front of the entire class? Do I haveta stand up and move to the front of the room too? *whines*
Toldja I could be mean. *snickers* "Boys are Stupid. Throw Rocks at Them."
But then any guy who's ever dealt with women (i.e. all guys) could tell you that all women are evil. *evil grin* And fickle, can't forget that. Depends on your perspective whether this evil is a good thing or a bad thing.

John--Drow kill Wookies before breakfast. :)

WOOKIES RULE, DROW DROOL!

One more thing, Jeremy, i like the class, i like it alot.

First off, Caroline that was great, were gonna have so much fun.

Secondly, Jeremy, your weapon change has been considered, it will do 1d6 18-20x2, and a +2 to disarm checks.

And lastly, Larry, are u gonna be playing this thursday?

One more thing, Caroline, print out your last post and bring it to the game today, I want you to read it to the class.

And David, Im sorry man, but your character is not getting a wand of anything. And if your character would think for a second of asking a cleric of the house to make you a wand, would be the last second he drew breath. Im not trying to be mean, but if a house drow even so much as breathed wrong infront of a cleric, he would not survive long.

Can I petition for a weapon change?

The Bladed Gauntlets were originally an exotic 1d6 17-19x2. The errata nerfed them back to 1d6 19-20x2. The gauntlets have no special abilities. This is a waste of a feat. (Of course, I saw nothing wrong with them in the first place. They had the stats of a Scimitar, with an increased threat range for exotic.)

I would like the Gauntlets either and/or -
a. Declared a Martial weapon, since they are in no way better than a short sword with the same stats.
b. Given back an inceased threat range or multiplier more in line with an exotic weapon
c. Given some special ability.

Personally, I think (exotic) 18-20x2 with a +2 to disarm attempts would work well.

awww...dusty you missed the cannibal corpse concert

You would dare to question the necessity for a cleric of Lolth, and even stoop to question the status of Drow mothers? *ominous look* A Drow mother always condemns weakness and lauds strength in her children, and uses competition among the youngest of her children to aid her judgement in this endeavour. After she has eliminated weak children and deemed the rest potentially worthy of survival, she unleashes them on the world. The strong become ever stronger and impose their views on the world, and the others continue to suffer (as they justly deserve). Many die at the hands of the strong, but the truly weak never even surpass "natural" hazards. Clerics and Lolth herself oversee this contentious process and succor victorious strength with divine healing. Males who are too incompetant to recognize the worthiness of her healing can go entirely without it; few will live long enough to regret their rash decision. Lolth has never had mercy for those who do not recognize her power and infinite wisdom, and her cruelty to false worshippers remains unparalleled. *sneers*

Only the surface creatures, such as our ancestral elven foes, "lick the wounds" as you say. Surface mothers encourage their weak children instead of letting them die and condemn the strong as "bullies". As they are unfit mothers, we Drow always kill their unfit children easily. They grow weaker and weaker with every generation. Eventually, we will swarm over them and utterly destroy their society.

After carefull consideration, I am allowing both 3.0 and 3.5 rangers, the 3.0 is the main choice and the 3.5 will be a variant. If anyone desides to multiclass 3.0 ranger and another class, keep in mind thet only humans are allowed to multiclass freely, that means if u take 1 lvl of 3.0 ranger and dont take it again, u will be subject to the normal xp penelty.

You are drow, u have survived 110 + 2d6 years in the underdark. You have shown your supremisy over the weak and frail. Only lolth can take your life now.

ewwwww...... gross Jeremy

We are Drow. The strong do not need their mother following them around at all times to lick their wounds. The strong will survive, and the weak will die...

Dave--If you're meaning your rogue, he won't be able to heal reliably for a couple levels.

Leon--Hmm... I admit that I haven't looked at the 3.5 ranger all that closely, but it just seems a lot better to me. The two main advantages the 3.0 ranger has: no adaptation needed, and the feats at 1st level. If the feats are an issue, there's no reason why they couldn't be shifted to 1st level, since I doubt Dustin's going to allow people to frontload by taking a single level of ranger. After 1st level, the 3.5 ranger seems to win hands down. There's also a significant difference in HD and Skill Points and the way Animal Empathy works. So why not combine the classes into the best of both worlds? Now the 3.0 rogue vs. 3.5 rogue, that's a case for allowing dual progressions. *shrugs* But whatever Dustin says, goes.

I can heal if I get a wand

I'm a bit confused here. I seem to have opened a whole can of worms by asking a completely logical question. I said nothing about NOT allowing the 3.0 ranger. Personally, I'd choose one or the other, but that's just me, there's no overriding reason not to use both, if minor modifications are made to one or the other to bring them in line with the rules the rest of the characters follow. Simply treat them as different variants. And that brings me back to my question. Since Dustin has said before that the 3.5 ranger is allowed, that implies that the feats he has as class abilities may be available to other characters. I was simply checking to determine if that was the case, as it could impact one of my backup characters.

Personally, I'd recommend one ranger progression, which adds the useful parts of 3.5 (feat, benefit progression etc), but doesn't conflict with 3.0. The 3.5 progression cannot be used without modification down to 3.0 (animal friendship, animal empathy, wilderness lore, etc) and the 3.0 progression is too underpowered.

If my character does die, we need to have someone else willing to play a female cleric, some male class option for healing, a cleric NPC, or a truly ridiculous amount of healing potions. Anyone else interested in playing a cleric if "bad things happen"?

I realy wasn't gonna nail down which ranger progression i was gonna alow, but now that the question has been posed, i am gonna open it up for discusion, would it be theisable to have both 3.0 and 3.5 exist in the same world? Depending on group consesious, i will deside what format ranger will be in.

All-- u might want to bring an extra character or 2 to the game this Thursday, Im going with Carolines idea to play test some ot the new rules. But the only way that i could think of how to intertwine that into the story was kinda tricky. You will all be going through a test of strength, and as u all know, only the strong worship lolth.

Jeremy--How does reducing two feats to one feat gimp your character? And the people playing rangers are using parts of 3.5 and 3.0. Weird, weird variant. What brands of HD's died, so I know what to avoid?

Wayne--I wish my no sleep was from games rather than homework. Alas, midterms have eaten my soul.

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Jeremy & Dustin--I'm not going to make it tonight. I've got the worst cold ever! I look like an extra from one of my zombie movies. Sorry.

Matt- I've had three 200g drives in a row self-destruct on me. If I HAD a stable HDD, I'd be using it. :)

Whoop-da. Hopefully this will solve things.

Caroline--Low quality movies? I don't know what you are talking about.

Wags--I have an old 6 gig at home that is in pretty good shape, if you want.

Hey, Jeremy, Dustin: Either of you have a spare HDD? Anything that is /stable/ and between 5-10 gigs would do just fine.

Leon - I hope not. I need the 3.0 Ranger. Otherwize my character is gimped...

Sleep is not an option. Only the continuation of the gaming to the point of lost of reality.

In other words, Spaced out because of no sleep. playing games that way is fun..........

hi guy's it's me

Oh, and I'm working on my backups as suggested. One spiked chain wielder (probably another martial artist) and a pure rogue double shortsword user.

Hey Dustin, what I meant to ask you before getting distacted over other issues is this. Since 3.5 rangers are allowed, are we going to use the 3.5 version of Two-Weapon Fighting for all characters?

Sleep? Who needs sleep? Such pretty colors... *yawn, falls over in coma* Don't forget work, low-quality movies, and maybe even your wife. ^_^

I forgot how much of my time and energy went into that stupid game (Dungeons and Dragons)............ Now I just sleep a lot and play wookie........ :)

hey guys...hows it going,i havent talked to any of you for a while.

Dustin--Neat, flaws and stuff. Apparently it also has some damage variants if you really want some sort of weird effect. So will you come early enough that we can actually look over them before game? *snickers*

As for the wizard NPC, do you want me to lookover your NPC's spells, or just do them with input from Jeremy/Leon/John? I still think your NPC shouldn't specialize because he would lose way too much flexibility within drow society (Abj-Endure Elements and Dispel Magic; Conj-Mage Armor and Summon spells; Div-know where/what things are; Ench-Hold/Charm Person; Evoc-Darkness and dmg; Illus-Invisibility, Silence, and infinite flexibility; Necro-fun evil spells; Trans-Polymorph/Teleport). Losing a school (or two or three) changes wizardly capabilities a lot, especially when you consider Drow spell resistance. But if you're gonna specialize, I'd recommend doing something with abjur/divin/illusion/trans since spell resistance is less likely to apply to those than ench/evoc/necro spells. And he needs Spell Penetration.

Remember that argument about Sneak Attacks at CK? Apparently WotC is psychic or something.

They also added an article on level progressions for Drow. Not that we're doing that, but 'tis interesting and may help with the Drow commoner NPCs. Course the WotC stuff also disagrees with FR on what Drow actually have. Yay inconsistency?

I am gonna be allowing the use of flaws from unearthed arcana, all flaws and feats gaind from the flaws must meet dm approvial. Flaws are on page 92 of unearthed arcana.