Double D10? I may want one just for the novelty of it. Would make a curious percentile dice.

I have double d10s! *beams* If anyone wants some for themselves, I could sell some to you. Now what we really need are double d8s for the arrows... *muses* I also have some more double d6s, but not many chars need those.
Will post dead rogue treasure soon-ish.

Jeremy--Are u playing tonight?

Dustin- Final Fantasy XI: Online is out. And you want me to leave the house? To play *your* game? What... you think you're SquareEnix now? Look what you're competing with!

This better be good....


;)

Just in case, for anyone who didn't get the word last Saturday, which is most of you (yah yella bellied losers), there will be no Deadlands game this week. I'm hoping to get some more players to join by next week. I'm also hoping that the people already in the group will actually show up.

BTW, those of you making new chars for Dustin's game tommorow night may wish to give some thought to what deity you serve. Just a suggestion.


Yes, I'm playing a cleric. no I'm not telling you any more than that. Yet.

X, the series... I think I've seen that. If I'm remembering the right series, it was rather good.

*laugh-twitch at the last fight in the X movie* No further comment on the movie.

Movies in descending order of logic... Escaflowne->Eva->X

Why are movies based on series always on crack?

Jeremy- are you going to be tossing them to the hdd for the bleam machine, we could watch them on a 32 inch high res computer monitor.

John-- the only thing it had in common with the series was the name and name of characters, if you are going to make a movie based off of a TV series, at least base it of the g*#$@#$% TV series.

Just making sure it was watched and out of the way...

Alright. New series. I've got a couple of new series downloaded I've been wanting to watch. I'll have to check their quality and see how well they look full-screen before making any decision, but I'm leaning towards X:1999 - the TV series.

If it's half-way as cool as the Manga, then it's hella' badass...

If it's half-way as cool as the movie, then you're going to want to stab your eyes out with a fork. The movie sucked. You can imagine how half-of-suck is even worse...

Dustin--Why?

Jeremy-- I wached it and didn't like it.

Did you watch it...?

Jeremy--Escaflone the movie. Are we still up for tonight?

Dustin, what DVD did I give you last week?

It's Monday. What do you think?

has everyone gone braindead....

lol

D'oh

Arrgh!

what...

Mmm...

Nnh...

Jeremy-- are we still up for anime and Tuesday?

So WoC is developing an Underdark book, which should be out this week. They also posted an interview with the developers. Although it's a 3.5 book, it seems to have some interesting things that could be adapted/appropriated. Tremorsense boots, daylight pellets, new monsters, etc.

Point for discussion: changing the money split slightly so that Valfor gives us 10,000 upfront for taking the mission and the local grey tower gives us each 5,000 upfront to clean out the rats.

My char's yelling at Valfor to get replacement peoples here NOW, but at the moment, she's angrier at the local grey tower for sending us against the ratmen (that is, until she sees what the crypt thingies will do to the party).

Questions/requests for Valfor: The party needs a rogue to get back in the sewers, and a fighter and a cleric to survive there. What does the key piece look like and/or how will we recognize it? Is the crypt likely to have creatures that drain stats or levels (using in-game terms)? Any more dangers we should know about?

His name is valfor, and he will give the new starting char 15000 gp to take the mission. he will also send a bag of holding down with 30,000 gp in it for caroline and jeremy.

Leon-- I wont be able to make it to the game tonight, Ive got a 20 page paper due on mon.

Jeremy--And who taught Dustin about rogue tactics?

First off, if you can manage to justify looting in paladin ethics, my char (sole surviving :D) will help loot. (If you can't, my char will loot and not tell you.) However, the thieves' guild got to the looting first, and a black pudding ate Brian's stuff before that. So we have to wait on backup, kill said thieves' guild (now that Dustin has readjusted CR), and attempt to find stuff. On the plus side, I levelled and Valefor will give us stuff (i.e. we get to extort stuff from Valefor) for continuing on his deadly quest.

I can be there at 3:00

BTW, dustin could you show up early for Deadlands today to create your character?

While you're at it, there's some stuff I want to run by you for my new D&D character.

So when our new characters wipe out the thieves, we'll get most of our stuff back WOOT!

Jeremy- you can loot the bodies, if you go into the theives guild and kill all the rouges and take the stuff that you think is theirs.

Shatz- I'll take the BESM stuff.

Dustin- If everyone is dead, can I loot the bodies of the rest of the party...?

Don't you wish that ide transfered as fast as fire wire, i have been transfering 34 gigs of data and it has taken 2 hours sofar. still going.

Againg, i appoligise for killing everyone, but you gotta admite that it was a good ambush.

Excerpted from a scary 1984-ish Wired article about an inner-city charter school which tracks kids' school attendence (soon everything else) with RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) chips.

Reading, Writing, and RFID

Gary Stillman, the director of a small K-8 charter school in Buffalo, New York, is an RFID believer.

While privacy advocates fret that the embedded microchips will be used to track people surreptitiously, Stillman said he believes that RFID tags will make his inner city school safer and more efficient.

Stillman has gone whole-hog for radio-frequency technology, which his year-old Enterprise Charter School started using last month to record the time of day students arrive in the morning. In the next months, he plans to use RFID to track library loans, disciplinary records, cafeteria purchases and visits to the nurse's office. Eventually he'd like to expand the system to track students' punctuality (or lack thereof) for every class and to verify the time they get on and off school buses.

"That way, we could confirm that Johnny Jones got off at Oak and Hurtle at 3:22," Stillman said. "All this relates to safety and keeping track of kids.... Eventually it will become a monitoring tool for us."

"(It's) the same as swiping a mag-strip card for access control, or presenting a photo ID badge to a security guard, both of which are commonplace occurrences," Straitiff said.

Additionally, Stillman said that the RFID-linked databases would require separate passwords to access students' disciplinary, attendance, health, library and cafeteria records.

"It's as private as anything else can be when your information is stored on a server," he said.

Caroline--I supervised from my air conditioned office this year. Muhahahahahahahahahahaha........ My students were always good this time.

I thought you were still dealing with the Small Houses... Are the Consultants more efficient or did the dept finally get funds to hire more?

You could have students deal with the eMacs too.
1. Find a few boxes.
2. Print mailing labels with sender's address of Antarctica, so you don't have to pay postage.
3. Put eMacs in labelled boxes.
4. Leave boxes out for mailman to pick up.

Alternatively, wait a month or three and "lose" them in the snow.

Caroline--You forget I have students to deal with Orientation, though the eMacs do make me angry...... urge to kill rising rising. Where is Dustin when you need him?

John--As much fun as you have Wednesdays of Orientation and with the eMacs. ;)

Caroline--It's all good. Have fun with the midterms.

John--Give me a week or so to get money in hand and deal with nasty mid-term type things.

Dustin--If nothing else, you're succeeding in making my wizard very, very paranoid.

Caroline--When would it be good for you to make the exchange cash for books? Just let me know, I'll work around you.

Jeremy--I have decided the BESM books are up for grabs. I think $25 for my main book, Tank Police supplement, and BESM screen. Let me know if you want it.

Is anyone interested in my Cthulu stuff (including D20 main book), D20 modern, or D20 Silver age sentinals? Let me know, otherwise it is eBay time.

I wish my homework could be finished in 2 hours like that. Dumb grad school.
*zoomTHX*

If any one is still reading the blogg, I will be hosting my game, I got my homework done.

This is a test of the emergency broadcasting company, this is only a test. bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp. Thank you for your patience.

I have too much homework to do this evining, I wont be hosting tonight.

I will not be showing up to the games this week...

See you there at 3.

Sure, I can be there at 3.

The polynomials or the people?

no they suck.

Dustin -- Only b/c my char isn't 1st-level anymore :-P
Find anyone to factor polynomials yet?

Caroline-- 1 wizard - all her hit points squared = (1 really dead wizard)

Oh yeah like I said the whole bunch of White Wolf books go for a mere $150 bucks.

White Wolf list:

Vampire:
Vampire 1st ed
Player's Guide 1st ed
Storyteller's Guide 1st ed
Vampire 2nd ed (hard cover)
Player's Guide 2nd ed (hard cover)
The Hunters Hunted
Anarch Cookbook
Elysium
Mummy
Players Guide to Sabbat
Story Teller's Screen
Ashes to Ashes (setting)
Giovani Last Supper (setting)
Dark Colony (setting)
Clanbooks: Assamite, Brujah, Gangrel, Malkavian, Nosferatu, Setites, Torreador, Tremere, Tzsimsce, and Ventrue

Live Action:
The Masquerade 2nd ed
The Masquerade Character Book

Werewolf:
Werewolf 2nd ed (hard cover)
Werewolf 1st ed
Storyteller's screen
Litany of the tribes 3
Breed: Moloke

Mage:
Mage 1st ed
Storyteller's screen
Hidden Lore (setting)

Changeling:
Changeling 1st ed
Storyteller's screen
Player's kit

Um yeah, why do you think my char hides in the middle/back of the party?

Polynomials, eh? Have fun with that.
2dustins squared + 1dustin - 1 = (2dustins - 1)(1 dustin + 1)

Caroline-- It's not that I don't like wizards, It's that I am going to have to find a new and inventive way of killing said wizard. *evil grin*

Does anyone feel like tutoring a dumbass in math, particularly factoring polynomials?

Why Dustin, all I was doing *mock-innocent look* was notifying you of spells I'd be taking at 11th level... If you don't want to hear about them, then I just won't tell you. *evil grin*

I hate wizards.

Hey Dustin, the session after this one I can cast Mass Haste on the party (extra partial action, AC bonus) and then cast Slow on 11 opponents (partial action; AC, att, dmg, Refl penalties). Won't that be neat? Oh, and Disintegrate and Chain Lightning and stuff. :D

I'll post the White Wolf list in the next couple of days.

Leon--I'll put you on the "schedule". Can you be at the shop earlier, maybe around 3?

I'm interested all right. I won't have $60 until the end of the week when I get paid. What say we meet Saturday, I'll be there by 5PM for the game.

I'm interested in the White Wolf set. I think Matt was interested in some of it as well. I know you have a whole lot of books, but it would be nice to have a few details about the collection (All subsystems, all subsystem core books, etc?).

Also is anyone interested in my White Wolf stuff? I have a ton, but it must all go! So please don't ask if you don't have $150 to spend.

Jeremy--The best part of Deadlands is playing a huckster. Your magic is effected by the playing cards you draw, it is way kewl.

Leon--Sorry that I didn't make it Sunday. Here is a list of the books that I have.

The Weird West:

Deadlands main book
The quick and the dead
The book of the dead
Hucksters and Hexes
Cthulu adventure
Deadlands poker deck

Hell on Earth:

Main book
Spirit Warriors

Misc:

I also have that plastic container of poker chips

The cover prices on the Books themselves is over $160 bucks. You can have all it for $60. Again I'm sorry that I didn't make it Sunday, so if you want it just post a time after 6pm that you will be at the comic store and I'll meet you there. Please do post if you want it or not, because if you don't I'll offer it to your players.

Oh yeah and just for fun, if you buy the books I'll give you my deadlands card game stuff when I find it. (since I'm cleaning out the house it should be within the next couple of weeks.)

An interview with the developers of D&D Online. It doesn't say much about the tech of the MMORPG, but at least the developers have some design philosophy...

Woot! There's a (currently vaporware) story about a GBA adaptor to let it play NES or Famicon cartridges... Now if companies would only start reissuing said cartridges...

You use playing cards for Deadlands? Kick ass. Is that the primary randomizer, or does Deadlands still use dice?

I've been reading about a few diceless / Playing-card based systems, but all of the onese I'd seen the reviews said they were kind of flaky.

I've got one deck of cards covered; more if I dig through stuff.

More detail about the setting. You are in Cripple Creek, Kansas, a moderately prosperous town in the eastern part of Kansas, not too far from the Missouri border. The entire area (the entire state really) is disputed territory claimed by both North and South, although neither side is able to effectively adminster it. Cripple Creek is settled by Union sympathisers, but they are more loyal to their own pockets than to any nation or cause for the most part, so a good deal of Cripple Creek's economy is involved in cross-border trade, much of it illicit. Why you're in town is up to you, it's a likely area for anyone to pass through. Bounty hunters or lawmen will note the large number of outlaws operating in the KA/MO area. Gamblers will know that the tables at Parker Place are reasonably famous and there is about to be a large tournament there. Almost any type of character can be found in or around town.

Yeah, I'm hoping to get started a little after 6. As I said before, character generation will take a while, but I think we should be able to get some playing in. I'd like everyone to have at least some idea what kind of character they will be playing. In addition to all the standard western types there are four types of special character: The huckster (an arcane spellcaster who gambles with dark spirits for his powers), the shaman (an indian who uses his special connection to the spirit world to request favors from the spirits), the blessed (a member of any number of religions who uses the power of faith to heal and protect as well as smite the wicked) and the mad scientist (who builds astonishing devices beyond the bounds of conventional science). We'll need mostly conventional characters, in fact I'd almost prefer the original group to concetrate on the usuall western professions, it will be far simpler while learning a new system, but i won't tell you you can't play an unusual character.


Oh, BTW, if you can, please bring a deck of playing cards, preferably one with two distinct jokers. I have a number of decks myself, but more will help during character generation.

John--See ya sunday.
Leon-- Are we playing your game today?

Must of scared Dustin off.....

I put on my steel toed boots and kick you in the nuts. Then shocked by the lack of resistance, and my own inablility to locate such a small target I speak. "Obeetaybee".

I pull off my glove, walk calmly to you and slap the glove across your face. "I accept your challenge." Does noon work for you?

Dustin--Does that mean you accept my challenge, you lowly son of a motherless dog! You vomitous squealing vermin! Prepare your buttocks for a pummeling!

I might be a little late due to a lecture on "Neomedievalism & Video Games" (Woot!) Shouldn't be though.

You only won two games, in other words Bring it, if you think you can.

Dustin--What is it worth to you? Heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheehe...... I think that they may still be on my laptop, I'll check for you hombre. You want I should kick your ass at magic again this week at Eric's?

Wayn--eighth Lvl good char with no race restrictions. post your char consept for approvial.

Hail, All.

Me's Back.

Corporate Screwup Has been Fixed(For the moment).

Dustin- What lvl would you like to start my character at for tonight?

Hope everyone is well and see you tonight........

John-- could you email me any excel worksheets that you used for D&D.

Does anyone want to take a guess as to what happens when you don't shutdown a windows 2000 computer for two months, and you let it go into hibernation mode instead?

You corrupt the virtual memory manager. I hate Bill Gates.

It only took five seconds to fix, but still a windows protection error missing or corrupt vmm32.dll. I say it again, I hate Bill Gates

we should be playing my game tonight. I will keep you posted

Yeah, still planning on Saturday. I suspect a good bit of time will be spent on character generation, but I hope to get things at least started before the end of the night.

Somethings very wrong with that spell. I'd be checking for errata, if Wizards ever bothered to keep current errata files posted. As with so many things, Steve Jackson games does this best, they've had the current errata for all games they ever published available online since the days of their dial up BBS. It's over 20 years later and WotC with less material and way more money can't post errata for more than 4 or 5 of their books. (blows a big, fat raspberry in the direction of Renton)

All--Is it just me or is this Savage Species spell on crack?
Earth Reaver
Trans [Fire]; Clr 4, Sorc/Wiz 4; CT: 1 action
Range: Medium
Area: 20-ft.-radius spread, +10 ft./lvl (Neat, 120 ft radius spread)
Duration: Instantaneous
Saving Throw: None
Spell Resistance: Yes

You point at a spot on the ground, and the earth at that point erupts in a shower of rock, dirt, and fire. Creatures and objects within the area take 7d6 of damage; the damage is 4d6 impact and 3d6 fire. Those who fail the (non-existent) saving throw are knocked prone.

Dustin--Much sympathy on the workload, as I had a paper due at 2 and have a midterm coming up at 6.

Jeremy--Definitely interested in cheap memory. Let me know how cheap a single 512 chip would be (dratted single upgradable slot). I could trade you a used 64 meg chip for a minor discount. *snickers* ResellerRatings, eh? Yeah, I know all about CompUSA's teaser items, since I worked there as a cashier for a summer. Some very nice deals for the people who remember to fill out the rebates and are willing to wait a long time. But we cashiers always dreaded the resulting Sunday crowds... especially since they wouldn't let us use our employee discounts on the "free" items. :D Hmm... what's the upfront cost on that 200GB HD and the rebate expir? *ponders getting a cheap external case or replacing current 60 GB HD*

Leon--How's your game going? Still planning on this Saturday?

Caroline: We don't deal with Laptop parts. I'd check E-bay.

Memory, I can keep an eye out for. For 512's, usually MAX $40 a chip. Currently only have a few PC100 256's laying around. Nothing new.

Actually, I may have some used 512s I could make you a deal on. I think we might have some 512/133s pulled from one of our personal systems when we upgraded to DDR. I'll check on that.


I hate buying from Pricewatch. I've actually stopped using them, since I've had so much trouble with all the damned Pakistanis. (Why is it that every goddamned independant PC dealer is a crook, who can't speak a word of English?) Bait and switch, sending the wrong parts, lies about shipping rates, etc. ("Well, shipping is listed as .97 cents fixed, but we're going to charge you $19 shipping if you want a guarantee that it will actually show up.)

If I'm searching for specific hardware on the net, I either look for respected sellers on E-bay or ResellerRatings.com. Not only can you do a search for best price, but they also have each site rated for customer satisfaction.

Besides, most of the best "after rebate" deals come from the major retail chains. Best Buy, CompUSA, etc. They almost always have one "teaser" item on sale for next-to-nothing to encourage people to come into the store. Free RAM, free CD-Rs, etc...

Of course, my latest deal... (After rebates):
200GB Dell branded Western Digital HD, $37 shipped. Woot! ::Dances::

As of right now, we might be postoning my game this Thursday, this is dependant on how much homework I get done befor tommorow. I will keep you posted as to if we will be playing tommorow.

Actually yes, but did I bring the list to work *eh* no..... I'll either post it from home tonight or bring the list to work tomorrow.

A T3 isn't important in and of itself; it merely represents the expensive (more than $50) level of bandwidth that I can't afford. If I could actually afford it, then I would get the best option, which would prolly be hogging a major university's 10 gigabit/sec Internet II (Abilene) connection. ooooo gigabits of bandwidth...

And yes, I know about Pricewatch... I just happen to think that Jeremy's rebate deals might be more reliable than Joe Schmo's random tech company.

why would you ever get a t3, it cost roughly $1500 a month which is 4.41Mbs . get an oc1 which is $1200 a month and 51.8Mbs, muhahahahacough cough cough, I still can't get over this damn cough.

Caroline check out this web sight for parts deals.

Hey, John. You ever get around to doing that inventory of your Deadlands stuff?

Hmm... *crosses fingers* ever see any deals on
- PC100 (or PC133) 512 meg chips
- 60-80GB laptop HDs
- laptop CD-R or CD-RW/DVD-R drives? (but that's even less likely...)

Leon, if you're in need of a CD burner, I can keep an eye out for deals. We regularly find burners for about $10 (after all rebates are applied.) If you're in need of one, I'll make sure to pick one up next time we see it.

If you don't have any open bays, then rip that damned CD-ROM out and replace it with the CD-R.

External CD burners aren't all that expensive... or you could swap out the internal one... or you could pick up this 300GB HD.

"Yes it only runs at 5400rpm...
...but as a timesaver, it comes with its own RIAA and MPAA subpoenas attached."

T3? Hell yeah, I'll take one. And a terabyte or three of storage. But until I win the lottery, I'll have to make do with cable and 30 gigs. Of course, it would help if I could burn CD's (damn broken ass piece of shit)

mp3s, not necessarily. But music videos, full movies, tv episodes, or high-quality audio...

Bandwidth is also a consideration, alas. *wants a T3 line for herself* Resource hog, me? *innocent look*

Either way, I'd be happier with something approaching a terabyte, rather than ~80 gigs between 2 computers.

It's doubtful that even the most voracious downloader of MP3s would ever need a petabyte -- a million gigabytes -- worth of disk space to house their collection.

I take that as a challenge...

Personally, I'm more than happy with a terabyte.

Which came first, alcohol or exasperating tech support (/counseling/mentoring) jobs? *snickers*

On another note, I want a petabyte for Christmas. Just not at the price they're charging....

vodka es goot, iam drunk.

It is official, I now have the areas most complete collection of d&d books that I have ever seen. I just bought Johns entire collection. Lots of reading to do, see yall Thursday, muuuuuuhahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahaha..... Cough cough couch, I hope I can get over this damn cough.

Some initial info about the Deadlands campaign.

It's set in 1877, but a very different 1877 from our world.

Here's what everyone knows, more or less.

At the height of the Confederate invasion of Pennsylvania in 1863, something very strange happened at the battle of Gettysburg. What exactly, nobody knows, but rumor speaks of dead soldiers rising to fight again, often against their former companions. Whatever actually happened that day, both armies were decimated and unable to continue fighting. Although there have been large campaigns fought since, for the most part a strange armistice of sorts has settled in by default. Open warfare has been largely replaced by skirmishes and raids. After seventeen years, both sides are weary of war, but unwilling to concede defeat.

With the white men distracted, two Indian nations have been able to assert their independence, the Sioux Nations in the Dakotas and the Coyote Confederation in Oklahoma. Further west, the Mormons of Desseret are an independent nation in all but name. Technically part of the Union, they follow the laws of the land only when it suits them to do so. California was nearly destroyed in the Great Quake, it's coastline shattered into a maze of twisted waterways disputed by Union and Confederate forces as well as Mexican.

All over the west, rumors of strange beasts abound. From giant burrowing worms in the Mohave desert, to undead gunslingers, to vampires and werewolves, all the beasts of legend and many never before imagined now seem to walk the earth.

To fight these beasts, men have turned to science to develop new and more deadly weaponry. Mad scientists turn out everything from steam powered gatlings and mechanical mules to miracle healing elixirs and Aether blasters.

Rumors abound of men armed with mystical powers of their own as well. Best known are the Blessed, who call upon the power of God to protect, to heal and to smite the wicked. But beware, for many have turned to strange, appocalyptic cults and declare all outsiders to be wicked. Indian shamans as well are widely believed to call upon the spirits to aid them and their followers. Less well known are the deadly hucksters, masters of the arcane lore hidden in Hoyle's Book of Games.

More posts to follow explaining your start point and some of the local situation.

Also, more on the types of characters available.

Speaking of Matrix, I saw a trailer for it (and also one for LotR) at Kill Bill. Looks about like expected, lots of cool effects and a plot that will probably sink under it's own pretentions. Worth watching though, if only for the cool mecha.

*sigh* Kill Bill, another good thing that I can't do until homework is done... Hopefully, its reality matches the hype for Matrix Revolutions.

"What will be different in Revolutions? It's the final, ultimate manifestation of Larry and Andy Wachowski's anime dream: to make a movie as close to anime as possible. Take the best and coolest aspects of anime -- large-scale robotics, entanglements between man and machine -- and tranform it into a feature, live-action film. You'll also see lots more bullets."
"The most difficult thing about creating effects for the trilogy? Designing choreography that could never be actualized by human beings."

Kill Bill F-ing rocks!

Nuff said.

The problem with that (using the original element) is that the # of elemental spells is unbalanced. Most of them are fire-based, with a few cold and electric (and acid) here and there. Tis a possibility though.

More random theory questions:
What happens when Chain Spell or Split Ray is applied to Disintegrate?
What level would a multi-target version of Polymorph Other be? (depends on the target/lvl distribution, obviously)

I said a little powerful, not too powerful. Making it a 2 level adjustment is almost certainly too much. Perhaps it should be only useable on spells that are already of one of the two elemental types choosen.

It dose seem a little over powerful, but I think making it 2 levels higher is a little much.

It could be changed to 2 levels higher, but since it does nothing to damage/range, it's only important for targets with serious energy vulnerabilities/immunities/healing... Energy Admixture doubles damage and is 4 levels higher. Archmage lets you use substitution with more elements, but that costs a high-level spell slot and affects all your spells. Basically, I'm experimenting with the flexibility of a nonelemental savant and testing my sense of game balance. I was thinking of a series of these types of feats (choose between three and four elements), but I'm not sure whether the levels would scale and whether anyone would want to take them.

Interesting feat. After a bit of thought and comparing it to Energy Substitution, it seems a little powerful but probably not out of line.

They wern't seen as evil. they were being controled by the gem. the were alowed to keep a peice of the key, because they helped to seel the gem and create the key. solar and Lunas, Titus's sons formed the two cities in the bowl. Once they were allowed to learn what happened to their father, wich was about 100 years after the fact, is when the cities started to become racial elitists. And at that time the elves wernt seen sa much of a threat to anybody, alot of tem died during the epic battle.

Dustin--If the elves had just lost an epic battle and were seen as evil, why were they trusted with anything, let alone part of an important artifact? And why did other races not protest the elves' practice of slavery and racial elitism?

All--Is this feat balanced?
Energy Duo [Metamagic] (feat name subject to change)
Prepare a spell with two types of energy. At the time of casting, select which type of energy is in effect.
Pre-req: Energy Substitution
Benefit: Choose two types of energy: acid, cold, electricity, fire, or sonic. During spell preparation, the caster can modify a spell with the energy descriptor to use the two chosen types of energy instead. When casting, one specific type of energy is chosen from the pair. A dual spell works normally in all respects except the type of damage dealt (as Energy Substitution).
A dual spell uses up a spell slot one level higher than the spell's actual level.
Special: You can gain this feat multiple times; each time it applies to a different pair of energies.

this is the story valfor told you

Five thousand years ago, when the world was still young, a great and evil elf name Titus was beginning to grow in power. He believed that Elves were the supreme race, and began a mass war against all of the other races. His army began a march West over the mountains from the bowl, and began slaughtering anything that was not elf kind. King Lusken of the shore, realizing that his people and the realm were in danger, began raising his own army to try to defeat the Elvin king. The common races flocked to the kingdom of Lusken to seek refuge from the marauding elves. Realizing that all of the lower races were gathering in the kingdom of Lusken, Titus led his army in to destroy them. An epic battle ensued, Titus was defeated and his army destroyed. After the battle, it was discovered that Titus had a gem around his neck that gave him the power to control people’s minds and do exactly what he said, without question. Realizing the power of the gem, King Lusken ordered the gem be buried with Titus’s body in a crypt deep under his palace, which is now under the black mages tower in Lusken. And the key that could open the crypt to be broken into five pieces and guarded by each of the five goodly races. One of the pieces was sent to be protected by the elves in the bowl, one with the humans of the planes, one with the Halflings of the shire one with the gnomes of Atlantus and one with the dwarves of the mountain bowl. I believe that the dwarves of the bowl have two of the five pieces and are searching for the rest.
I am willing to pay each of you 10,000 gp for each piece that you retrive for me, the key can only be destroyed once the 5 pieces are reunited.

I have a fairly decent stack of Deadlands stuff. I'll "inventory" it this weekend and post what I have.

John: Do you have any Deadlands supplements for sale?

Matt--Yes I have much lead

see yall at the game

Shatz: I have the main book, and don't really give a fig about the Mechwarrior stuff. OTOH, the minis and Battletech Books might be something....

All-- We will be playing my regular Thursday game today. I hope yall enjoy. Oh by the way, it is official, I have Pneumonia, or am getting over it. It is not contageous, and if you can handle a dm on codine cough syrup, we should have fun tonight.

Matt--Well I have all those minis, as well as the books. Oh yeah and the Mechwarrior RPG. I also have the Changeling main book. ShadowRun can kiss my ass....

Caroline: A prestige class with it's own spell progression is significantly weaker than one which increases previously existing ability. To be balanced, classes that advance spellcasting are significantly weaker in their other abilities. Furthermore, classes with thier own lists are typically focused on other abilites (either combat or stealth type abilites most typically) rather than spellcasting. A class that granted all the abilites of the templar to a cleric while allowing them to keep advancing their spellcasting ability normally would be incredibly broken, regardless of requirements. It might be possible to balance the class by having it advance spellcasting level every other level or even every third, but every level is right out.

John: Any Changeling stuff? And/or ShadowRun and Battletech stuff?

All prices are flexible and start at say 25% off cover for the older stuff. The All Flesh stays (love zombies), but BESM, White Wolf, Silver Age Sentinels, D20 modern, etc. is up for grabs.

John--How much is the White Wolf stuff running? Any other general categories (BESM, All Flesh...)?

I am selling all of my gaming books. The D&D stuff is gone, if anyone is interested in the rest either post here or email me. My prices are insane!

Dustin--Good luck with stuff... The schoolwork's starting to pile up for me too.
Unless you suddenly turn into a bad DM, I'd still like to play in your game on Thursdays. *waits for others to chime in with opinions* The decision on switching Thursdays seems to fall on you and Brian and Leon though. Do you have enough time to plan and run a game every week?
Brian & Leon--Are your games prepared enough to start running every other Thursday/Saturday?

John- yep, did you get my reply

All-- Unfortunately school is becoming a lil much. Here are our options, I drop the drow game and my reg Thursday game, or I drop the drow game and run reg Thursday every week. There is a third option, I drop the drow game and give up opposite Thursday game to someone else. Either option, looks like the drow game is postponed until summer, too much work to run two separate games at once and still maintain a 4.0. So the basic question is, do you guys still want to play my reg Thursday game? I would like to run it this Thursday, sense I put so much time into the next game. I leave the decision up to yall.

Dustin--Dropload doesn't seem to be working. If you want to try transferring RacesoF via AIM or YahooMess, email me a SN. Otherwise, you'll just have to survive with all the other Drow stuff.

Dustin--Did you get the email this time?

To be more specific and ignoring all other advantages of prestige classes... Is a prestige class who gets its own limited divine/arcane spells comparable to one that requires divine/arcane casting ability and then continues a divine/arcane progression? For example, would it change the game balance to have a templar with divine progression (with divine casting pre-req) instead of a limited spell list?

Caroline: I'm not entirely sure I understood your question, but here goes. If a class casts divine spells, it doesn't matter how limited the their power is, so long as they can cast spells of the required level. So a 7th level Consecrated Harrier or Templar would both meet the requirements for Divine Disciple. And advancing as a Divine Disiple (or any similar class) could advance the casters level as either. Note that neither class gains new spells after level 10 so a 7th level Templar/ 5th level Divine Disciple still casts the same spells as a 10th level templar, although her caster level will be 12 for duration, penetrating SR etc.

Dustin--this page has Drizzt's Guide to the Underdark, Faiths and Pantheons, Lords of Darkness, Monsters of Faerun. This other page (page taken off-line as of 10/8) has the Core Evil book and Book of Vile Darkness. Still working on Races.

As for prestige classes, I'm interested in the Divine Oracle (DoF), Bane of Infidels (Masters of the Wild), Forbiddance of the Divine, or Faith Avenger (if it can be interpreted). My char will be fine with or without them. Just having trouble finding worthwhile non-good and non-necromantic divine PrCs.

All--Is limited divine casting ability (templar, consecrated harrier, etc) comparable to req casting ability of a certain level (divine disciple, contemplative) and then advancing the caster's level?

It will start th. the 9th

uh....so does this drow game start next thursday or this coming up?

Js-Still nothing

For the new th game, your house will give you a suite of armor +1 and a single +1 weapon. If you are a male, you can be a fighter, wizard, ranger, or rogue. Females must start as a cleric for at least 1 level, than go onto the class list for a male. All prestige classes must be approved ahead of time. If you are a male, you will not be able to own anything that is not given to you by your house. All party treasure must be give to your house and the matron mother will give it back to you if she feels generous. This is a female dominated society,any male who disrespect or disobeys a female will be sacrificed to lolth.

is there no game toinight or something?

shut up !!!!

really?

no reply yet.

Yep, got it. Have you recieved my reply? Sneaky ain't I?


"....Merry Christmas to all now you are all gonna die. The night Santa went crazy..."

Js- it was the one that refered to playing magic.

Dustin--Perhaps, which one was it?

Shatz-- Bite me. Did you get my email a week ago? I don't know if my email system is working correctly yet.